Mesorat%20hashas for Pesachim 39:13

אמר ליה לא סלקא דעתך דתניא יכול יהו כל הכלים מטמאין מאויר כלי חרס

- Said Rab Judah in Samuel's name: E.g. if it was an animal for a peace-offering and it was led through a river and then slaughtered, and the water is still dripping upon it.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' That water makes it fit to contract uncleanness. - The animal was led through the water immediately prior to its slaughter in order to facilitate flaying, v. Bez. 40a.');">¹⁰</span> 'If found in the excrements, it is all clean.' But let the excrements defile the flesh in their turn?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'go back'. It is assumed that the excrements rank as a fluid, since the animal was watered immediately before slaughter (v. Bez. 40a) . The needle should therefore defile the excrements, and that in turn should defile the flesh.');">¹¹</span> Said R'Adda B'Ahabah: It refers to thick [solid] excrements.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This is not a liquid.');">¹²</span> R'Ashi said: You may even say that it refers to loose [fluidlike] excrements, [its non-defilement being] because it is a noisome liquid.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. Supra 18a.');">¹³</span> A tanna recited before R'Shesheth: A sherez defiles liquids, and the liquids defile a utensil, and the utensil defiles eatables, and the eatables defile liquids,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., each in turn defiles the other.');">¹⁴</span> and [thus] we learn three [stages of] uncleanness in the case of a sherez. But there are four? - Delete liquids in the first clause, on the contrary, delete liquids the last clause? - We find no other Tanna who maintains [that] liquids defile utensils save R'Judah, and he retracted.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Hence if we retain liquids in the first clause, there is no authority for the second clause, 'and liquids defile a utensil'. By deleting it, however, the reading becomes: a sherez, defiles utensils.');">¹⁵</span> And your sign [for remembering the order] is the brewing process.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' First there is the vessel; an eatable (sc. dates) is put therein, whence the liquid (sc. beer) is manufactured.');">¹⁶</span> We learned elsewhere: If a creeping thing is found in an oven, the bread therein is a second, because the oven is a first.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The sherez touches the oven, which in turn touches the bread, Kelim VIII, 5.');">¹⁷</span> R'Adda B'Ahabah said to Raba: Let us regard this oven as though it were fined with uncleanness,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For immediately the sherez, enters the air space of the oven, even before it');">¹⁸</span> and let the bread be a first? - Said he to him, You cannot think so,for it was taught: You might think that all utensils become unclean through the air space of an [unclean] earthen vessel:

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